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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the top. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination.

DYK criteria

Official criteria: DYK rules
Unofficial criteria: LaPella's unwritten rules
  • DYK evaluation includes:
  • Length - The Article should contain at least 1,500 characters in main body text (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, and tables). This is a mandatory minimum; in practice, articles having more than 1,500 characters of prose still may be rejected as too short, at the discretion of the selecting administrators.
  • Verification - The DYK hook fact in the article needs an inline cite at the end of the sentence and the article in general should use inline, cited sources.
  • Date - The new article should be no more than five days old and the expanded article should be expanded at least fivefold with new text within the last five days.
  • Length
  • DYK qualifying characters: To count the number of characters in a piece of text, you will need to use a JavaScript extension like User:Dr pda/prosesize.js (instructions on the talk page), a free website like this, or an external software program that has a character-counting feature. For example, if you are using Microsoft Word, select the text from the article page (or, in the case of "Did you know" nominations, this Talk page) – not the page containing Wikitext – then copy and paste it into a blank document. Click "Tools" ("Review" in Office 2007), then "Word Count", and note the "Characters (with spaces)" figure. Other word processing programs may have a similar feature. For Mac users, Apple has a Word counter widget available for Mac OS X 10.4 or later. Note: The character counts indicated on "Revision history" pages are not accurate for DYK purposes as they include categories, infoboxes and similar text in articles, and comments and signatures in hooks on this page.
  • Lists: Proposed lists need 1,500+ characters of prose text. The listed items themselves are not counted as part the the 1,500 DYK qualifying characters
  • Verification
  • Suggested facts (the 'hook') should be:
    1. interesting to draw in a variety of readers,
    2. short and concise (fewer than about 200 characters, including spaces),
    3. neutral,
    4. definite facts that are mentioned in the article, and
    5. always cited in the article with an inline citation.
  • Please note that hooks are subject without notice to copyediting as they move to the main page. The nature of the DYK process makes it impractical to consult users over every such edit. In particular, hooks will be shortened if they are deemed too long: the 200-character limit is an outside limit not a recommended length. Also, watch the suggestions page to ensure that no issues have been raised about your hook, because if you do not respond to issues raised your hook may not be featured at all.
  • Articles on living individuals must be carefully checked to ensure that no unsourced or poorly sourced negative material is included. Articles and hooks which focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided.
  • Other issues
  • Pictures: Pictures accompanying the DYK hook should be:
    1. freely licensed suitably and freely (PD, GFDL, CC etc) licensed (NOT fair use) because the main page can only have freely licensed pictures;
    2. suitable, attractive, and interesting at a 100x100px-wide resolution;
    3. already in the article; and
    4. relevant to the article.
  • Sounds: Sounds accompanying the DYK hook should have similar qualities to pictures, and should be formatted using {{DYK Listen|filename.ogg|Brief description}}

Sample DYK suggestion strings

Please use one of the below strings to post your DYK nomination:

  1. New Article, Self-Nom: {{subst:DYKsug|article=|hook=... that ?|creator=|image=}}
  2. New Article, Not Self-Nom: {{subst:DYKsug|article=|hook=... that ?|creator=|nominator=|image=}}
  3. 5X expansion, Self-Nom: {{subst:DYKsug|article=|hook=... that ?|expander=|image=}}
  4. 5X expansion, Not Self-Nom: {{subst:DYKsug|article=|hook=... that ?|expander=|nominator=|image=}}
  5. New Article with help from a collaborator: {{subst:DYKsug|article=|hook=... that ?|creator=|collaborator=|image=}}
  6. Other parameters - Any of the following additional parameters may be used. They will perform as described at {{DYKsug}}.

    |altusername= |article2= |article3= |article4= |article5= |comment= |expander2= |expander3= |movedtomainspace= |collaborator=

  • When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
  • Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
  • If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name|December 3}} Thanks, ~~~~

Symbols

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or that there is an issue with the article or hook, you may use the following symbols (optional) to point the issues out:

Symbol Code DYK Ready? Description
{{subst:DYKtick}} Yes No problems, ready for DYK
{{subst:DYKtickAGF}} Yes Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
{{subst:DYK?}} Query DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify the nominator with {{DYKproblem}}
{{subst:DYK?no}} Maybe DYK eligibility requires some minor work to fix. Notify the nominator with {{DYKproblem}}
{{subst:DYKno}} No Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem}} on the user's talk page, in case they do not notice if there is an issue.

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on December 3

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David M. Jones

Alt 1: "... that U.S. Air Force Major General David M. Jones led the digging team for the "Harry" tunnel used in the Great Escape? — ERcheck (talk) 04:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Medicamina Faciei Femineae

  • ... that the ingredients for facials recommended in Ovid's Medicamina Faciei Femineae over 2,000 years ago are still used in the production of modern cosmetics? —- Created by Aramgar (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • I can only get the first page of the JSTOR article this is cited to (ref 10), but the language in that page suggests that Medicamina Faciei Femineae has been pretty much ignored for most of the modern era. —Politizer talk/contribs 03:17, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
I am not sure if I understand your concerns. Can you please be more specific? Also if it would be helpful, I can send you a PDF of the article. The poem has not been ignored in the modern era, though most of what has been written about it is philological rather than cosmetological. :) Aramgar (talk)

Jose C. Abriol

  • In-line citation provided as requested. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • As an aside, I am somewhat concerned about the fact that the article relies almost entirely on one source. It's not enough to bar this from DYK, but if you can add more sources before this hits the main page it would be greatly appreciated. —Politizer talk/contribs 04:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Y Done I added additional information and sources on the page as requested. - AnakngAraw (talk) 05:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Mesa Arizona Easter Pageant

You may want to rewrite that hook -- the pageant bills itself as the largest, which is a bit of a difference. Plus, that first reference from Business Wire is a self-promotional press release. Thanks. Ecoleetage (talk) 03:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Ulster cherry

Juke Joint (1947 film)

Articles created/expanded on December 2

U-27 class submarine (Austria-Hungary)


Siege of Constantinople (1203), Siege of Constantinople (1204) and Siege of Constantinople (1235)

  • ... that Constantinople was besieged three times in less than thirty-five years in the 13th century, namely in 1203, 1204 and 1235?
Whose nom is this? --74.14.18.48 (talk) 21:41, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Here's the edit. Art LaPella (talk) 04:15, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Sitabuldi Fort


Bovista dermoxantha

Mike Trusson

  • ... that after retiring as a player, former footballer Mike Trusson worked as marketing manager for a football-themed restaurant in London? —-  5x expanded by ChrisTheDude (talk). Self nom at 13:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Vilhelm Aubert

  • Date and 5x+ expasion confirmed, online ref verified. Nsk92 (talk) 04:11, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

British Bulldog revolver

De-italicised. (No need.) --74.14.18.48 (talk) 21:41, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Daedalea quercina

  • ... that the oak mazegill fungus Daedalea quercina (pictured) has been used as a horse-comb and as a bee anesthetic? —- Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Length verified, references included. Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 19:39, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on December 1

Yip Pin Xiu

List of WWF Light Heavyweight Champions

May not be a breaker, but it's worth pointing out that the championship is not currently listed as an achievement on Villano III's page GTD 22:31, 2 December 2008 (UTC)Scrub that, it does and it doesn't... GTD 22:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
What is a breaker is that it's not even close to a five-fold expansion. More than 10,000 for about 18 months, 14,577 now. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 22:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Well that's because of the list formatting that was changed and many parameters that were taken out, but I expanded the lead at least 4 times of what it originally was, which was like 3 sentences.--SRX 22:58, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Havmanden class submarine (1911)


List of ECW Television Champions

Doris Dungey

Kafr Lam

Verifying off-Wiki source with good faith. Wow, 16,000 besants -- talk about a real estate bargain! :) Ecoleetage (talk) 03:34, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

National Hunger March, 1932

Length confirmed, abundancy of references, interesting hook. May want a tiny bit more tweaking with the hook for it to be perfect. Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 01:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I changed "National Hunger March, 1932" to "1932 National Hunger March." Other than that, I think it's fine. —Politizer talk/contribs 01:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I like the ALT. And it's still verified, since it's the same fact as the orig hook. —Politizer talk/contribs 02:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Alexandru Macedonski

Note: there are other facts in the article that could make for an interesting hook: him supposedly being the first modern European to have used free verse; his enthusiasm for cycling; his bitter debates with other writers; him being generally seen as one of the two greatest Romanian poets etc etc. So feel free to rework the hook or create others, but please let me know before you do. Dahn (talk) 01:29, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Worcester Common Outlets

I tweaked the wording of the end of the hook and am currently trying to improve the article a little. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 15:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Ingrid Semmingsen

  • Length and history verified, Norwegian ref accepted in good faith. —Politizer talk/contribs 00:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Ascot-Pullin 500

Without all the references, the article is too short. Please expand. Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 22:35, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Also, the reference for the hook fact is a dead link. And therefore, I also don't know if "ohv" should be linked to overhead valve or off highway vehicle ("ohv single" does need an explanation). Art LaPella (talk) 01:58, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
The image used may not be copyright-free: a bot transferred it from Dutch wikipedia, that's as far back as licensing info goes. Dahn (talk) 02:40, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Licence is PD-OUD in dutch, which is PD-Old in English. Mjroots (talk) 17:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Lakes in Bangalore

  • ... that management of lakes in Bangalore by government agencies witnessed experimentation with limited public–private sector participation that proved controversial resulting in policy reversal? —-  5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
  • I would suggest alternative "... that the lakes in Bangalore have been largely encroached by urban infrastructure resulting in existence of only 17 good lakes as against 51 healthy lakes in 1985?" Raise lkblr (talk) 06:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Both these hooks are pretty long and convoluted. How about something like:
  • ALT2: ... that recent restoration efforts were said to have "breathed new life" into Ulsoor Lake, one of the largest lakes in Bangalore? —Politizer talk/contribs 06:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the suggestions.I will go with ALT2.--Nvvchar (talk) 15:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Urbach-Wiethe disease

  • Note: this very competently written article is the author's first ever contribution.  Sandstein  20:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC) - Fixed capitalisation in nom,  Sandstein  21:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Bovista plumbea

  • Article is only 1429 chars. Also, the hook is pretty bland. —Politizer talk/contribs 16:02, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
The article appears to be at 2999 characters....I'll try to modify the hook, though...Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 17:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
2999 characters is counting the references. At DYK, though, references don't count towards the 1500-character limit. —Politizer talk/contribs 17:13, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
I believe I cleared that up now, too...want to check it again? Maybe I should change the hook to something about common names... Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 18:47, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Length is good now, and there are lots of good references. Still, if you can dig up a more eye-catching hook, that would be nice. Thanks for expanding the article! —Politizer talk/contribs 18:51, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
(ALT1)... that Bovista plumbea, also known as the "paltry puffball", was considered as a means to attain penicillin? Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 22:15, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Verified ALT. —Politizer talk/contribs 23:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Andrew McKelvey

List of Presidents of India

Battle of Metz

  • Please feel free to reword it if it can be presented in a better way. Chamal talk 12:23, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Comment: The German Army link isn't too good, since it links to the modern German Army. Manxruler (talk) 07:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I've changed the link to Wehrmacht. Chamal talk 11:43, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
What does "hostilities were formally ended" mean? End of World War II in Europe? --74.14.18.48 (talk) 21:51, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
No, the end of that particular battle. When the city was captured the objective was complete, so the battle was officially over. The forts were going to fall anyway. I've reworded the hook to avoid any confusion. Chamal talk 00:18, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't think "formally ended" and "officially over" are suitable vocabulary in this case. No peace treaty was signed. "German units in nearby isolated forts continued to hold out" and "hostilities were formally ended" contradict each other. --74.14.18.48 (talk) 05:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

.44 Webley

  • This article currently isn't long enough for Did You Know. Please see #Instructions for details. Art LaPella (talk) 01:43, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Also, the article is currently marked as a stub, which is another DYK disqualifying factor. Nsk92 (talk) 02:55, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm prepared to del the stub tag, added as a default (given I'm unsure what qualifies as non-stub). Some correction/add is in train. TREKphiler hit me ♠ 06:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Added some, del stub tag. Also, now at .442 Webley, the more common name, I'm told. (My NeoOffice counts almost 1800 chars as it stands now.) TREKphiler hit me ♠ 07:21, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I still have several significant problems with this entry. First, the article is still rather short and feels very stubby. Second, there are problems with what sources are cited and whether or not they support the hook. One of the two sources cited is a geocities site[1], not an WP:RS. I am not quite sure if the other source[2] passes WP:RS. Also, the section "Custer’s Personal Weapons" in this last source makes it clear that there is in fact disagreement between various historians regarding what kind of personal weapons Custer had at the Battle of the Little Bighorn. The section discusses pros and cons of various possibilities and contains polemic arguments. It does not unambiguously and definitively support the statement as given in the hook. Nsk92 (talk) 17:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

<--Looking at it again, & given the number of variants the RIC was offered in, it's likely Custer's, even presuming they were RICs, weren't actually .442s anyhow. Given that, I would withdraw this one, absent confirmation. TREKphiler hit me ♠ 19:01, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Scorpion Pass Massacre

  • ... that in 1954 Israel walked out of the Israel-Jordan Mixed Armistice Commission after the commission failed to condemn Jordan for the Scorpion Pass Massacre? —- Created by NoCal100 (talk). Self nom at 05:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Length, history, ref verified. Replaced "it" in the hook with "the commission" to be clearer. —Politizer talk/contribs 15:37, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Bǎ construction

Serenity High School

  • ... that Serenity High School, the oldest public substance-abuse recovery high school in Texas, has served over 150 students from over 25 area high schools since opening in 1999? —- Created by Davidwr (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Alternative hook, if space is an issue the day this is posted: ... that Serenity High School is the oldest public substance-abuse recovery high school in Texas? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 01:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Multi-sentence hooks are frowned upon, so I tweaked your original hook to put it in a single question sentence. —Politizer talk/contribs 01:20, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
      • Thanks. Any other reason this can't go forward? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 16:30, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
        • Verified. I don't think it can make B-class until someone tracks down info about the specifics of the program (which I mentioned on your talk page), but that won't hold it back from DYK. —Politizer talk/contribs 16:36, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Odontoglossum crispum

Odontoglossum crispum

Your Friend the Rat

  • About 1400 to about 3000 characters isn't a five-fold expansion (if I counted right). That's three-fold. Needs more expanding. – RyanCross